Saturday, May 8, 2010

Unseen Record Breaking Damage

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Let's consider what we know about the game.  Traps and Blades work Geometrically.  If you don't want to do all that reading on what it means, here's a simple example:

You plan to attack a monster with a 100-damage wand, and you've trapped the creature with a Feint (1.7 or 170%)  and a Curse (1.2 or 120%), in that order.  There is no damage boost from armor, and no natural boost or weaknesses; in this example, you're a Storm Wizard in Grandmaster Gear using Redwind's Sword.  Your damage is calculated geometrically as followed:
100 x 1.2 x 1.7 = 204 (rounded down, per Wizard101 mechanics)

Had we had Weakness on our Storm Wizard, the calculation is:
100 x 0.75 x 1.2 x 1.7 = 153 (rounded down).

Reduction is also geometric (the state in which all values are multiplied with one another), but the value never reaches exactly zero unless you are multiplying by zero.  Taking a half of a half of a half of a quarter will still give you a positive number, an existence of something, and not "nothing" (zero).  The only time we see "zero damage" is when there is an Absorb, but that is another post, given that wards/shields weren't used at all in our experiment.

So, how did we get damage to skip past 0 and into the negatives?  I would loosely explain it by introducing the figurative expression, "It hurt so much that it felt good."  In other words, we must have broken a limit on damage, whatever that number is?  But, Sacrifice Minion did -5,709,186 to the minion, "healing" it and healing Cheryl.

Hey, wait a minute, when did an attack ever heal the target itself?  It's impossible, especially when it doesn't register as a "heal."  I bet if we were allowed to run two Bubbles at the same time, adding Sanctuary wouldn't do anything to the negative five million, so it's not a recovery spell.  It was damage (notice the fist icon next to the number).

Here's a personal mathematical theory (in the region of calculus and advanced algebra) regarding what our experiment showed:  The number we produced was outside of the programming code's range.  What that means (just in case you don't want to read that either) is that our input did not produce an acceptable output.  For example, if you had the numbers 1, 2, 3, and 4, as inputs, and I asked you to square these (multiply them by themselves), your acceptable outputs would be 1, 4, 9, and 16, respectively.  If I gave you 5, to input, not 1,  3, or 47. 

Whether it's based on a maximum amount of digits in a floating number, or a maximum value, I can't say.  We have seen damage go as far as around 130 million damage with a Tempest.  The base damage, without modifiers, is 85 damage per Pip equivalence, or 1190 maximum, under ten times less of Sacrifice Minion.

Though, this is just one experiment, with many factors to consider:
  • Cheryl used a treasure Sacrifice Minion (ice class) to utilize Fire damage
  • No elixirs were used
  • There seems to be an abundance of Ice Traps on the Minion, and all class-biased traps, including Elemental Traps, were placed before the treasure Fire Prism
So, expect more to come in the near future!


  1. @Autumn: I strongly agree!

    Kevin likes to forget we are not all mathematicians.

    Kevin; my mom even reads your blog sometimes, and she does like it a lot, but she looked at this post and her eyes crossed and she had to give up cause it was hurting her brain to see all that...she said it was like being in a calculus class(lol.)

    Please remember most people can not handle having all these numbers thrown at them(like me too! You might as well be speaking Chinese to us D:

    Sorry, I wish I could understand it all better, but it was never my strong suit and I'm too old to learn that much...I am lucky if I can balance my check book xD

    ...It's on the wrong side of the brain for me to get it all(I'm more the artist-type,) but it's good that there are people like you who do get it all...just keep in mind we can't all be that way :)

  2. Woo, that's quite a post there. Just last night I was trying to explain the time-space-duration relationship to my mom, I was able to follow H. G. Welles' The Time Machine perfectly, and even I can't understand this. I'm really good with Algebra and math in general, but this just won't sink in. Maybe it's because it's 9:47 at night. (I'll read it again in the morning.) I wish I could understand this because I'm sure there is tons of valuable information in here.

    Sorry Kevin, but I think you're just a little too smart for even the Awesome Sauce-erer.


  3. @ Heather: Hehe, I'll be sure to include a LOT of visuals next time...I just noticed how much it helps in tutoring to draw things out rather than explain, so I'll keep that in mind next time I pull a fun-undrum!


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